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What were the original lyrics to innie minnie minney mo? Miny, moe, Catch a tiger by the toe. Original lyrics innie minnie minney mo. Dec 10, 2008  Best Answer: United States and Canada It is usually sung: Eeny, meeny, miny, moe, Catch a tiger by the toe. If he hollers let him go, My Mom says to pick the very best one and you are it Sometimes a line is added at the end of the rhyme to draw out (or to manipulate) the seemingly random selection process.

How did the original 'Eeny, meeny, miny, moe' (featuring the word n*gger) begin? What does it mean line by line?

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Some older versions of this rhyme had the word nigger instead of tiger:

Eeny, meena, mina, mo, Catch a nigger by the toe; If he hollers let him go, Eena, meena, mina, mo.[3] This version was similar to that reported as the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888.[10] It was used in the chorus of Bert Fitzgibbon's 1906 song 'Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo':

Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo, Catch a nigger by his toe, If he won't work then let him go; Skidum, skidee, skidoo. But when you get money, your little bride Will surely find out where you hide, So there's the door and when I count four, Then out goes you.[11]

It was also used by Rudyard Kipling in his 'A Counting-Out Song', from Land and Sea Tales for Scouts and Guides, published in 1935.[12] This may have helped popularise this version in the United Kingdom where it seems to have replaced all earlier versions until the late twentieth century.[3]

Iona and Peter Opie pointed out in The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes that the word 'nigger' was common in American folk-lore, but unknown in any English traditional rhyme or proverb.[3] This, combined with evidence of various other versions of the rhyme in the British Isles pre-dating this version, would seem to suggest that it originated in North America, although the apparently American word 'holler' was first recorded in written form in England in the fourteenth century, whereas according to the Oxford English Dictionary the words 'Niger' or 'nigger' were first recorded in England in the sixteenth century with their current disparaging meaning. The 'olla' and 'toe' are found as nonsense words in some nineteenth century versions of the rhyme, and it could possibly be that the original 'Where do all the Frenchmen Go?' (probably originating during one of the periods of Anglo-French warfare) was later on replaced by the earlier version in the United States, using some of the nonsense words

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeny,_meeny,_miny,_moe

I have several questions:

  • Are words like 'Eeny' 'Miny' 'Skidum' and 'Skidoo' complete nonsense for the sake of creating a memorable delivery? What is the purpose of their usage?

  • How did the eeny, meeny, miny, moe rhyme begin? Was it a quick rhyme to tell small children, not unlike old pirate songs (ex; sing a song of sixpence, etc.)?

  • When the rhyme states 'If he won't work then let him go' ... ' is this implying a slave should be murdered, if deemed unproductive? Released to hunt the slave? Is there historical significance here?

  • When the rhyme states 'But when you get money, your little bride will surely find out where you hide,' What is this in reference to?

  • Why would anyone ever catch another human being by the toe? Or is this also to create a silly rhyme?

  • In addition to the now better known substitution of 'tiger' for 'nigger' I can tell you as a small child I definitely heard both iterations which is fascinating to me because I'm only in my 20's - so I'm curious about how the split began. I'd also be curious to hear how common each iteration is and what the origin is?

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'Eeny, meeny, miny, moe' — which can be spelled a number of ways — is a children's counting rhyme, used to select a person in games such as tag, or for selecting various other things. It is one of a large group of similar rhymes in which the child who is pointed to by the chanter on the last syllable is either 'chosen' or 'counted out'. The rhyme has existed in various forms since well before 1820[1] and is common in many languages with similar-sounding nonsense syllables.

Since many similar counting rhymes existed earlier, it is difficult to ascertain this rhyme's exact original.

  • 6Popular culture

Current versions

A common modern version is:[2]

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
Catch a tiger by the toe.
If he hollers, let it go,
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

There are many common variations, such as replacing tiger with 'piggy', 'tinker', 'tigger', a two-syllable name, etc.; and changing the verb in the third line to 'screams', 'wiggles', 'squeals' or another verb.[3]

Sometimes additional lines are added at the end of the rhyme to draw out or manipulate the selection process or make it seem less predetermined, such as:

My mother told me/says to pick the very best one, and that is Y-O-U[3]

Or alternatively:

O-U-T spells out, you are not it.
Pig snout you are out. (Kiwis only)
Out goes Y-O-U.[4]

Occasionally the line copies 'Ip dip':

Not because you're dirty,
Not because you're clean,
Just because you kissed a boy and girl behind the magazine.[5]

Origins

The first record of a similar rhyme, called the 'Hana, man,' is from about 1815, when children in New York City are said to have repeated the rhyme:

Hana, man, mona, mike;
Barcelona, bona, strike;
Hare, ware, frown, vanac;
Harrico, warico, we wo, wac.[3]

Henry Carrington Bolton discovered this version to be in the US, Ireland and Scotland in the 1880s but was unknown in England until later in the century.[3] Bolton also found a similar rhyme in German:

Ene, tene, mone, mei,
Pastor, lone, bone, strei,
Ene, fune, herke, berke,
Wer? Wie? Wo? Was?[3]

Variations of this rhyme, with the nonsense/counting first line have been collected since the 1820s, such as this Scottish one:

Hickery Pickery, pease scon
Where will this young man gang?
He'll go east, he'll go west,
he'll go to the crow's nest.
Hickery Pickery, Hickery Pickery[6]

More recognizable as a variation, which even includes the 'toe' and 'olla' from Kipling's version, is:

Eenie, Meenie, Tipsy, toe;
Olla bolla Domino,
Okka, Pokka dominocha,
Hy! Pon! Tush!

This was one of many variants of 'counting out rhymes' collected by Bolton in 1888.[7]

A Cornish version collected in 1882 runs:

Ena, mena, mona, mite,
Bascalora, bora, bite,
Hugga, bucca, bau,
Eggs, butter, cheese, bread.
Stick, stock, stone dead – OUT.[8]

One theory about the origins of the rhyme is that it is descended from Old English or Welsh counting, similar to the old Shepherd's count 'Yan Tan Tethera' or the Cornish 'Eena, mena, mona, mite'.[3]

Another possibility is that British colonials returning from the Sub-Continent introduced a doggerel version of an Indian children's rhyme used in the game of carom billiards:

ubi eni mana bou,
baji neki baji thou,
elim tilim latim gou.[9]

Another possible origin is from a Swahili poem brought to the Americas by enslaved Africans: Iino ya mmiini maiini mo.[10]

Most likely the origin is a centuries-old, possibly Old Saxon diviner rhyme, as was shown in 1957 by the Dutch philologist dr. Jan Naarding, supported by prof. dr. Klaas Heeroma at the Nedersaksisch Instituut (Low Saxon Institute) at the University of Groningen. They published their findings in an article called Een oud wichellied en zijn verwanten (An old diviner rhyme and its relatives).[11] In part I of the article Naarding explains, why the counting rhyme he found in Twents-Achterhoeks woordenboek (1948), a dictionary by G.H. Wanink, stands close to an early mediaeval or even older archetype. That same version was recorded in 1904 in Goor in Twente by Nynke van Hichtum:

Anne manne miene mukke,
Ikke tikke takke tukke,
Eere vrouwe grieze knech,
Ikke wikke wakke weg.

Naarding calls its origin 'a heathen priest song, that begs the highest goddess for an oracle while divining, an oracle that may decide about life and death of a human'. The first lines can be translated as 'foremother of mankind, give me a sign, I take the cut off pieces of a branch (= the rune wands).'This explanation was revived and extended in 2016 by Goaitsen van der Vliet, founder of the Twentse Taalbank (Twents Language Bank).[12] The last line of the rhyme (in the Netherlands degenerated to 'iet wiet waait weg') can be translated as 'I weigh it up' (in Dutch 'ik wik en weeg').

American and British versions

Some American versions of this rhyme use the racial slur 'nigger' instead of 'tiger':

Eeny, meena, mina, mo,
Catch a nigger by the toe;
If he hollers let him go,
Eena, meena, mina, mo.[3]

This version was similar to that reported by Henry Carrington Bolton as the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888.[13] It was used in the chorus of Bert Fitzgibbon's 1906 song 'Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo':

Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo,
Catch a nigger by his toe,
If he won't work then let him go;
Skidum, skidee, skidoo.
But when you get money, your little bride
Will surely find out where you hide,
So there's the door and when I count four,
Then out goes you.[14]

It was also used by Rudyard Kipling in his 'A Counting-Out Song', from Land and Sea Tales for Scouts and Guides, published in 1935.[15] This may have helped popularise this version in the United Kingdom where it seems to have replaced all earlier versions until the late twentieth century.[3]

Iona and Peter Opie pointed out[when?] in The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes that the word 'nigger' was common in American folk-lore, but unknown in any English traditional rhyme or proverb.[3] This, combined with evidence of various other versions of the rhyme in the British Isles pre-dating this post-slavery version, would seem to suggest that it originated in North America, although the apparently American word 'holler' was first recorded in written form in England in the fourteenth century, whereas according to the Oxford English Dictionary the words 'Niger' or 'nigger' were first recorded in England in the sixteenth century with their current disparaging meaning. The 'olla' and 'toe' are found as nonsense words in some nineteenth century versions of the rhyme, and it could possibly be that the original 'Where do all the Frenchmen Go?' (probably originating during one of the periods of Anglo-French warfare) was later on replaced by the earlier version in the United States, using some of the nonsense words.[citation needed]

Variations

There are considerable variations in the lyrics of the rhyme, including from early twentieth century in the United States of America:

Eeny, meeny, miny moe,
Catch a tiger by the toe.
If he hollers make him pay,
Fifty dollars every day.[3]

During the Second World War, an AP dispatch from Atlanta, Georgia reported: 'Atlanta children were heard reciting this wartime rhyme:

Eenie, meenie, minie, moe,
Catch the emperor by his toe.
If he hollers make him say:
'I surrender to the USA.'[16]

A distinct version of the rhyme in the United Kingdom, collected in the 1950s & 1960s, is:

Eeeny, meeny, miney, mo.
Put the baby on the po.
When he's done,
Wipe his bum.
And tell his mother what he's done.[17] (Alternatively: Shove the paper up the lum)[18]

The most common version in New Zealand is:

Eeny, meeny, miny moe,
Catch a tiger by the toe.
If he squeals, let him go,
Eeny, meeny, miny moe.
Pig snout you're out.[4]

In Latin America the children play a game to choose or discard players, or to draw a winner/loser, singing:

De tin marín, de dos pingué,
cúcara mácara títere fue.
Yo no fuí, fue Teté,
pégale pégale a quien fue.

Another Latin American Version:

De tin marín, de dos pingué,
cúcara mácara títere fue.
¿Cuantas patas tiene el caballo?
Uno,dos, tres, cuatro.

A version also exists in Dutch als referred in Iene miene mutte:

Iene miene mutte
Tien pond grutten
Tien pond kaas
Iene miene mutte is de baas.

Controversies

  • In 1993, a high school teacher in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, provoked a student walkout when she asked her students about their poor test scores, 'What did you do? Just go eeny, meeny, miny, moe, catch a nigger by the toe?' The school's district superintendent recommended the teacher 'lose three days of pay, undergo racial sensitivity training, and have placed in her personnel file' along with a disciplinary pay cut.[19]
  • A jocular use of a form of the rhyme by a Southwest Airlinesflight attendant, encouraging passengers to sit down so the plane could take off, led to a 2003 lawsuit charging the airline with intentional infliction of emotional distress and negligent infliction of emotional distress. Two versions of the rhyme were attested in court; both 'Eeny meeny miny mo, Please sit down it's time to go' and 'Pick a seat, it's time to go'. The passengers in question were African American and stated that they were humiliated due to what they called the 'racist history' of the rhyme. A jury returned a verdict in favor of Southwest and the plaintiffs' appeal was denied.[20]
  • In May 2014, an unbroadcast outtake of BBC motoring show Top Gear showed presenter Jeremy Clarkson reciting the rhyme and deliberately mumbling a line which some took to be 'catch a nigger by his toe'.[21] In response to accusations of racism, Clarkson apologised to viewers that his attempts to obscure the line 'weren't quite good enough'.[22]
  • In 2017, the retailer Primark pulled a T-shirt from its stores that featured the rhyme spoken by The Walking Dead character Negan, overlaid with an image of his baseball bat. A customer, minister Ian Lucraft, complained the T-shirt was 'fantastically offensive' and claimed the imagery 'relates directly to the practice of assaulting black people in America.'[23]

Popular culture

There are many scenes in books, films, plays, cartoons and video games in which a variant of 'Eeny meeny ...' is used by a character who is making a choice, either for serious or comic effect. Notably, the rhyme has been used by killers to choose victims in the 1994 films Pulp Fiction and Natural Born Killers,[24][25] the 2003 film Elephant,[26] and the sixth-season finale of the AMC television series The Walking Dead. In Let the Tiger Go, a documentary on tiger conservation released on YouTube in 2017, the poem is read by Alan Rabinowitz in advocacy for ending the poaching of tigers for their body parts.[27] The very title of the documentary is implied to be an allusion to the poem.

Other uses of the phrase in popular culture include:

Music

The vinyl release of Radiohead's album OK Computer (1997) uses the words 'eeny meeny miny moe' (rather than letter or numbers) on the labels of Sides A, B, C and D respectively.[28]

Eenie Meenie Records is a Los Angeles-based music record label.

The names of many songs include some or all of the phrase, including:

  • Eeny Meeny Miny Moe by the Dutch group Luv in 1979
  • 'Eenie Meenie' by Jeffrey Osborne on self-titled 1982 album.
  • 'Eenie, Meenie, Miney, Mo' by Danish pop group Toy-Box in 1999 from their first album 'Fantastic.'
  • 'Need to Know (Eenie Meenie Miny Moe)' by the Swedish pop group Excellence in 2001.
  • 'Eenie Meenie' by Jamaican-American singer Sean Kingston and Canadian singer Justin Bieber in 2010.
  • 'Eenie Meenie Minie Moe' by Peach Kelli Pop from album 'Peach Kelli Pop I' recorded in 2010.
  • 'Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe' is a song on A Shared Dream, a 2012 album by South Korea group U-KISS.
  • 'Eeny, meeny, miny, moe!' by Japanese dance and vocal unit Sandaime J Soul Brothers on 2015 album 'Planet Seven'.
  • 'Eeny Meeny Miny Moe' is a song by Arizona hip hop trio Injury Reserve on their 2016 album 'Floss'
  • 'Eeny meeny miney mo' by Billie Holiday in 1935
  • The rhyme inspired the song 'Eena Meena Deeka' in the 1957 Bollywood film Aasha.

Literature

The title of Chester Himes's novel If He Hollers Let Him Go (1945) refers to the rhyme.[29]

In Salman Rushdie's The Moor's Last Sigh (1995), the leading character and his three sisters are nicknamed Ina, Minnie, Mynah and Moor.[30]

Rex Stout wrote a 1962 Nero Wolfenovella titled Eeny Meeny Murder Mo.

Film and television

In the 1930s, animation producer Walter Lantz introduced the cartoon characters Meany, Miny, and Moe (later Meeny, Miney and Mo). First appearing in Oswald Rabbit cartoons, then in their own series.[31]

The 1933 Looney Tunes cartoon Bosko's Picture Show parodies MGM as 'TNT pictures', whose logo is a roaring and burping lion with the motto 'Eenie Meanie Minie Moe' in the place of MGM's 'Ars Gratia Artis'.

The rhyme appears towards the end of 1949 British black comedy, Kind Hearts and Coronets. The use of the word nigger was censored for the American market, being replaced by sailor.[32]

The rhyme appears in the episode 9 / season 2 ('Identity Part II') of the American science fictioncomedy-drama television series The Orville.

See also

References

  1. ^I. & P. Opie, The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery rhymes (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1951, 1952), p. 12.
  2. ^Donna Wood (1971). Move, Sing, Listen, Play. Alfred Music Publishing. p. 75. ISBN1-4574-9680-1.
  3. ^ abcdefghijI. Opie and P. Opie, The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1951, 2nd edn., 1997), pp. 156-8.
  4. ^ abL. and W. Bauer, 'Choosing Who's In/It'(PDF). 2002. Retrieved 2015-05-18.
  5. ^R. D. Abrahams and L. Rankin, Counting-out Rhymes: a Dictionary (University of Texas Press, 1980), p. 119.
  6. ^Charles Taylor Chatterings of the Pica (1820)
  7. ^H. Bolton, H., The Counting-Out Rhymes of Children: Their Antiquity, Origin and Wide Distribution (1888)
  8. ^Fred Jago The Glossary of the Cornish Dialect (1882)
  9. ^Nihar Ranjan Mishra, From Kamakhya, a socio-cultural study (New Delhi: D.K. Printworld, 2004), p. 157.
  10. ^Bennett, P.R. (1974). Remarks on a little-known Africanism. Ba Shiru, 6(1), 69-71.
  11. ^J. Naarding en K.H. Heeroma, Een oud wichellied en zijn verwanten, in: Driemaandelijkse Bladen, 1957, p. 37-43. Online at the Twentse Taalbank.
  12. ^Goaitsen van der Vliet, Germaans uit Goor, in: Aold Hoksebarge, nummer 49.2 (juli 2016), p. 4216-4218. Online at Historiek (titled: 'Iene miene mutte' komt voort uit oud Oostnederlands wichellied).
  13. ^H. Bolton, H., The Counting-Out Rhymes of Children: Their Antiquity, Origin and Wide Distribution (1888, Kessinger Publishing, 2006), pp. 46 and 105.
  14. ^B. Fitzgibbon, Words and music, 'Eeny, meeny, miny, mo'F. B. Haviland Publishing Co (1906).
  15. ^R. Kipling, R. T. Jones, G. Orwell, eds The Works of Rudyard Kipling (Wordsworth Editions, 1994), p. 771.
  16. ^Myrdal, Gunnar (1944). Black and African-American Studies: American Dilemma, the Negro Problem and Modern Democracy. Transaction Publishers. ISBN9781412815116.
  17. ^I. Opie and P. Opie, Children's Games in Street and Playground (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1969), p. 36.
  18. ^Mills, Anne E. (6 December 2012). 'The Acquisition of Gender: A Study of English and German'. Springer Science & Business Media – via Google Books.
  19. ^Sink, Lisa (1993-01-19). 'Longer suspension for teacher urged'. Milwaukee Sentinel.
  20. ^'Sawyer v. Southwest Airlines'. Ca10.washburnlaw.edu. 2005-08-12. Retrieved 2011-11-15.
  21. ^'Jeremy Clarkson: I didn't mean to use N-word – video News The Week UK'. Theweek.co.uk. 2014-05-02. Retrieved 2014-05-14.
  22. ^Josh Halliday, Nicholas Watt and Kevin Rawlinson. 'Jeremy Clarkson 'begs forgiveness' over N-word footage Media'. The Guardian. Retrieved 2014-05-14.
  23. ^Burke, Darren (2017-02-21). 'Primark pulls 'shocking' and 'racist' Walking Dead t-shirt from stores after Sheffield man's angry complaint'. The Star. Retrieved 2017-02-22.
  24. ^S. Willis, High Contrast: Race and Gender in Contemporary Hollywood Film (Duke University Press, 1997), ISBN0-8223-2041-X, p. 199.
  25. ^J. Naisbitt, N. Naisbitt and D. Philips, High Tech High Touch: Technology and Our Accelerated Search for Meaning (Nicholas Brealey Publishing, 2001), ISBN1-85788-260-1, p. 85.
  26. ^A. Young, The Scene of Violence: Cinema, Crime, Affect (Routledge, 2009), ISBN1-134-00872-4, p. 39.
  27. ^Rabinowitz, Alan (December 10, 2017). 'Let The Tiger Go - Courtesy of GoPro'. YouTube.
  28. ^D. Griffiths, OK Computer (Continuum, 2004), p. 32.
  29. ^G. H. Muller, Chester Himes (Twayne, 1989), ISBN0-8057-7545-5, p. 23.
  30. ^M. Kimmich, Offspring Fictions: Salman Rushdie's Family Novels(Rodopi, 2008), ISBN9042024909, p. 209.
  31. ^J. Lenburg Who's Who in Animated Cartoons: An International Guide to Film & Television's Award-Winning and Legendary Animators (Hal Leonard, 2006), ISBN1-55783-671-X, p. 197.
  32. ^Slide, Anthony (1998). Banned in the U.S.A..: British Films in the United States and Their Censorship, 1933–1966. I.B. Tauris. ISBN1-86064-254-3. Retrieved 2008-10-02. p. 90.
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